Story By Phillip Potts
Paul Tate (LWMA Faculty 1965-1983)
and
Brian V. Brunner('64)
From: Phillip Potts(63) (PHILLP)
I found that I ended up going to the Universalist church a good bit while I
was at LW. For me it was unique. Men sat on one side, women on the
other. A very short service and then the men and women would break off
into group discussions. We often had guests from other religions to speak
or talk to.
But.. being that it was a bit different, we had a favorite prank. New
Cadets, or ones that had never attended were told.
"Men sit on the left, Women on the right." Midway though the service, a
basket is passed aorund with a snake. (Cobra was good). If you had faith,
it would not bite you..:)
Yes, we could be cruel at times...:)
From: Paul Tate (PAULTATE)
I understand now the reason the Academy staff decided to have services
exclusively for LWMA cadets apart from the regular services. Until the new
chapel was completed, the cadets marched to one of the three downtown
churches (i.e., Universalist, Baptist, Methodist) at 8:00 a.m.
From: Phillip Potts(63) (PHILLP)
I was wondering if it was now only on campus or if they were still allowed
to go downtown.
When did they start that?
From: Phillip Potts(63) (PHILLP)
"I understand now the reason the Academy staff decided to have services
exclusively for LWMA cadets apart from the regular services."
You mean! We did it? Gee, I didn't think we had that much of an effect..:)
From: Paul Tate (PAULTATE)
I don't know when the change was made, but it surely had to be shortly
after your class left, because in 1965-66, they had already begun to
march to church. Those cadets who wished to remain for regular church
were allowed to. Even today, I believe, the students who wish are allowed
to go to regular chuch after cadet services in the chapel are over.
From: Brian Brunner(64) (BVBRUNNER)
Paul and Phil,
Paul,
I was a Methodist but our church only had services every other week. On
the Sundays we had no service I had to go to
either the Baptist or the Universalist church. The Universalist was always
interesting because you never know
what was going to be said. Sometimes it was a lecture on art or music or
something else. The Baptist church was very popular because all the
young high school girls went there.
Anyway, I got a vary wide ranged religious education in Camp Hill Alabama!
I always kind of felt sorry for the Catholic boys because they had to ride
with General Futch in his station wagon to church in Dadville. They had to
behave at all times! I also wondered how many
cigars the General smoked in the car going to and from Dadville.
Phil, I don't remember the separate seating for the men and women, nor
the "snake joke" bit. Neither did I know at the time that Dr. Lyman Ward
was a Universalist minister, nor that the school on
the hill ( SII / LWMA) came out of that church.
Phil,
To: ALL
Date:9/9/98 9:43 am
Date: 9/9/98 10:21 am
To: Phillip Potts(63) (PHILLP)
To: Paul Tate (PAULTATE)
Date: 9/9/98 11:08 am
Date: 9/9/98 11:10 am
To: Paul Tate (PAULTATE)
To: Phillip Potts(63) (PHILLP)
Date: 9/9/98 4:41 pm
To: Paul Tate (PAULTATE)
Date: 9/10/98 11:53 am
The whole time I was there 59-64 the cadet corps, except for the Jewish
and Catholic students, was marched to downtown and fell out to their
"receptive churches". Some poor ranking cadet had to be
sure his church group was "all present or accounted for" when the
services were started.
We were not in a separate service.
I hope OUR conduct did not lead to that.:(
Maybe our numbers just overloaded the churches.:)
Richard (my brother), said to remind you about a church problem you,
Reinaldo Carrasquillo('60) and he had that made General Futch ask you if
you thought you were "privileged characters"! :)
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